Perhaps.
Regarding Viññāṇa, I first heard the phrasing “Consciousness Of” from John Peacock’s “Buddhism Before the Theravada” series (Part 5, 53:45): “…consciousness is always a consciousness of…” something. That is, Gotama spoke of consciousness always having an object. (MN 38)
“Consciousness is reckoned according to the very same condition dependent upon which it arises.
Consciousness that arises dependent on the eye and sights is reckoned as eye consciousness.
Consciousness that arises dependent on the ear and sounds is reckoned as ear consciousness.
Consciousness… nose and smells… nose consciousness.
Consciousness… tongue… tongue consciousness.
Consciousness… body… body consciousness.
Consciousness… mind… mind consciousness.”
But that’s not how most of us think about consciousness. (And it’s clearly not how poor Sāti thought about it.)
Here’s a little Cognitive Science support of Gotama’s position from Michael Gazzaniga’s Who’s In Charge?. Speaking of Split-Brain Patients:
“A patient suffering from untreatable grand mal seizures comes in for surgery to have their corpus callosum severed. The corpus callosum is an approximately 10mm-diameter bundle of nerve fibers connecting the left and right hemispheres of the brain. They come in to have the corpus callosum severed to reduce the severity and frequency of the seizures. The patient is given general anesthesia; the surgery is performed without incident. The patient wakes up, and you ask them, how do you feel? They say, “Totally fine. I don’t notice anything different at all.”
Huh.
Nothing different at all? That’s surprising. Let’s dig in a little. If you ask the person the question, “How do you feel?”, you are using language. Language is understood to be processed in the left hemisphere by most humans. So when you ask, “How do you feel?” the question itself is being received and processed by the left hemisphere.
After having the corpus callosum severed the left hemisphere looks at its experience and says, “Yep, everything’s okay here. I’m fine. Everything’s fine.”
Surprising because the left hemisphere, the part of the brain which has understood your question, and which answers you, has completely lost access to half of the visual field.
As Gazzaniga explains, “the patient … cannot describe anything in the left part of his visual field. The left hemisphere, which is telling you that all is fine, cannot see half of what is in front of him and is not concerned about it.”
Huh.
More from Gazzaniga, “If you woke up from most other types of surgery and couldn’t see anything in your left visual field, you would certainly be complaining about it, “Ahh, doc, I can’t see anything on the left—what’s up with that?”
The left hemisphere, the part that understood the question, and that speaks the answer, can no longer see half the visual field. And yet the patient reports everything is fine. Huh.
If you should administer a few cleverly constructed tests after the patient recovered from surgery, you would discover that this patient is similarly not aware of what their left hand is doing. If the left hand is drawing something or holding something, and the right eye cannot see the left hand, then the patient will report that they do not know what they are holding or what they are drawing.
And yet they continue to report that everything is fine.
Huh.
Gazzaniga understands the situation this way, “in order to be conscious about a particular part of [experience], the part of the cortex that processes that part of [experience] is involved. If [that part of the cortex] is not functioning, then that part of [experience] no longer exists for that brain or that person. If you are talking out of your left hemisphere, and I am asking you about your awareness of things in the left visual field, … That area simply does not exist for the left hemisphere.” (Emphasis added.)
Gazzaniga discusses loss of the left visual field in two other kinds of patients:
“Why do some people, who suddenly become blind in a large portion of their visual field complain about—are conscious of—it (“Hey, I can’t see anything on my left side, what’s going on?”) and others don’t say a word about—aren’t conscious of—their sudden visual loss?”
We have two patients, each of whom has lost awareness of their (for consistency, let’s say left) visual field. One person complains about it and the other does not notice it. What’s going on?
“The complainer’s lesion is somewhere along his optic nerve, which carries information about vision to the visual cortex, the part of the brain that processes this information. If no information is coming in to a portion of his visual cortex, he is left with a blind spot and complains.”
In the case that the visual cortex is functioning normally, but it is missing information from the optic nerve, the patient is aware of, conscious of, the missing information. They notice that they can’t see anything in the left part of the visual field.
“The noncomplainer, however, has a lesion in the [visual cortex] … itself and not the optic nerve. The lesion also produces the very same blind spot, but the patient does not usually complain. … Why not? The visual cortex is the part of the brain that represents, or assembles the pictures from, the visual world.”
“Each part of the visual field has a corresponding area in the visual cortex. So, for instance, there is an area that ordinarily asks, “What is going on to the left of visual center?” With a lesion on the optic nerve, this brain area is functioning; when it cannot get any information from the nerve, it puts up a squawk—“something is wrong, I am not getting any input!” When that very area of the associative visual cortex has a lesion, however, the patient’s brain no longer has an area responsible for processing what is going on in that part of the visual field; for that patient that part of the visual field ceases to exist consciously…”
In patients for whom the brain is no longer processing the left visual field, they do not notice the “missing” part. It’s not missing because their brain doesn’t “know” to look for it.
Gazzaniga explains the ramifications of this for understanding consciousness, “…phenomenal consciousness, that feeling you have about being conscious of some perception, is generated by local processes that are uniquely involved with a specific activity.”
Ie, “Consciousness is reckoned according to the very same condition dependent upon which it arises.”
Gazzaniga, “…the brain has all kinds of local consciousness systems, a constellation of them, which are enabling consciousness. Although the feelings of consciousness appear to be unified to you, they are given form by these vastly separate systems. Whichever notion you happened to be conscious of at a particular moment is the one that comes bubbling up, the one that becomes dominant.”
Ie, “Consciousness that arises dependent on the eye and sights is reckoned as eye consciousness…
Consciousness that arises dependent on the ear and sounds is reckoned as ear consciousness.
Consciousness… nose and smells… nose consciousness.
Consciousness… tongue… tongue consciousness.
Consciousness… body… body consciousness.
Consciousness… mind… mind consciousness.”
Huh.
With friendliness!
PS: Who’s in Charge? was published in 2012. Curious to see if Gazzaniga’s understanding has changed since then. In the meantime, one more provisional understanding to play with. :)))
8 replies on “Viññāṇa, CogSci Support for “Consciousness Of””
Reading my mind??? This morning I listened to a talk that distinguished conscious, subconscious, nonconscious, and unconscious. Last night I listened to a dharma talk by Stephen Batchelor regarding being conscious of “the all” – and how Buddha described “the all” by reference to the senses by which we perceive “the all.” Too much consciousness !?!?!?
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Probably not news, but Iain McGilchrist wrote a five pound masterpiece (The Master and His Emissary: The Divided Brain and the Making of the Western World.) on the divided brain. It is a tour-de-force, and one which I’ve never managed to get more than about a third of the way through before giving up.
While there is a vast repository of McGilchrist talks/interviews/debates to be found on the web, the interview Sam Harris did with him a few years back stands out for me as they cover a lot of territory relevant to this post. It was actually a bit discombobulating for me listening to their discussion as it doesn’t play well with my first person experience.
The full interview exists on the Waking Up app, and, if you aren’t a subscriber, you can listen to the interview and get 30 days of full access for the cost of an email address. At the end of the 30 days, if you don’t subscribe, you just lose access. If the topic is of interest, the conversation is very worthwhile:
https://dynamic.wakingup.com/course/CBE6CD?code=SCF78471A&share_id=CFD79384&source=content%20share
I’ll also note that Jill Bolte Taylor, who had a stroke in her left hemisphere and went on to give a very famous TED talk, has a relatively new book out called Whole Brain Living, largely informed by both the McGilchrist book and her own experiences, and she attempts to provide skills for working with the brain as a whole, avoiding being hijacked/dominated by one side or the other. I have not read the book, just reviews. I only mention it as a reminder to myself that I should probably have a look at it :-)
One other thing I didn’t see above with a split-brain patient: if you show the right visual field an object and ask the person to name it, they have no problem doing so, since that lands in the left (language dominant) hemisphere. If you then show an object to the left visual field and ask them to name it, they’ll come up blank. However, if you place a bunch of objects, including the one shown to them, in front of them and ask them to pick up the object in question with their left hand, they’ll pick the right object (I don’t recall if this is 100% replicated or not, but I think it fairly consistent). So they know, but they don’t know that they know. Or the part of them that can speak doesn’t know that the part that doesn’t speak knows. Or something like that.
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Mark, this is great! You’ve basically laid out posts for the next several months. Rereading _Who’s In Charge_, then actually finishing _The Master and His Emissary_ 😹.
I’m beginning a few days retreat this evening, so will be offline til at least Friday.
On another note, did you ever receive my reply to your email?
With friendliness, 🌻
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Hello Shannon,
This topic makes my head hurt. At least, that’s what the left hemisphere is reporting.
I’m in a constant befuddlement about whether there is something like awareness (think consciousness without an object) vs whether consciousness *always* occurs with an object. Different traditions seem to language/view this in different ways. While it seems difficult to find reference to awareness in the early buddhist texts, Ajahns Pasanno & Amaro have a chapter in The Island (“Unsupported and Unsupportive Consciousness”) that offers some possible mentions of it, depending on how one chooses to interpret/translate the passages.
When reflecting on the strangeness of the split-brain data, I can’t help but wonder if perhaps awareness itself is unified but consciousness (with objects) shows up as local processes in whatever region of the brain responsible for said objects. Of course, this feels like taking a view (the primacy of awareness) and trying to fit an explanation to the data. And given the pure subjective nature of awareness, assuming such a thing exists independent of “consciousness of”, it seems out of reach of objective verification. So, what to do?
Given the Buddha’s pragmatism, I imagine his advice to my fretting over such matters to be “get on with your practice.”
Although I am reluctant to tack on yet another book to the potential reading list, a recent book by Thomas Metzinger, The Elephant and The Blind, investigates and analyzes pure conscious experience using several hundred personal reports in an effort to provide a model of consciousness itself. The book is available via open access to anyone so inclined to dive in:
https://direct.mit.edu/books/oa-monograph/5725/The-Elephant-and-the-BlindThe-Experience-of-Pure
I can’t offer any kind of review as it is queued for reading, right after I finish The Master & His Emissary :-)
Regarding your email, I think maybe I did not receive it, assuming it was a response to my last note to you.
Wishing you well on retreat, and on all the days that follow. Thank you for your practice and thank you very much for your writing. It is of great benefit to me.
in gratitude – mark
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